A little short on juice!

We have a seasonal site at a campground on the Grand River near the village of Dunnville in Ontario, and Ontario is in the middle of an extended heat wave with daily temperatures around 30°C (86°F) which in the southwest would be very comfortable because of the low humidity. But we are not in the southwest and with close to 100% humidity it bring with it a feels like temperature of 40°C (104°F) and that makes it very uncomfortable. This is an old campground and only offers a 30 amp connection which would normally not be an issue if it was a clean power feed, and by clean I mean a connection like you would expect at your home where the utility supplies a good power source. We don’t have that luxury here with our supply being what I would refer to as a dirty connection, the dirty connection could be the fault of either the park or the utility.

In this case the issue is with the utility, as many of you know we are responsibly self sufficient with our lithium batteries and our 1500 watts of solar panels, but we do not have enough power to operate our air conditioner for hours at a time, so I usually operate one air conditioner on the parks power and power the rest of the coach from our batteries and solar.

Since arriving here at the park the power has always been a bit of a concern, old park, old wiring, old breakers and such. I was hoping not to have to learn the park’s system as we are just paying campers, but over the last two weeks we (I) have learned a lot about the parks system. There are approximately 70 camp sites, but some are not occupied, there are actually two different power sources into the park, I discovered that my source is supplied from a different village than the majority part of the park, in fact there are only six 30 amp outlets on this power source and one is unoccupied.

Five 30 amp sites would mean the maximum power consumption would be 150 amps at 120 volts or 75 amps at 240 volts. The utility supplies 240 volt source, a quick check of the main panel shows a 100 amp service at 240 volts which is equivalent to 200 amps at 120 volts, more than enough to supply the six sites at 30 amps each. So why is my roof air conditioner sounding like it is struggling to operate, a couple of minutes finds that our power supply is not maintaining 120 volts in fact it is dropping off to less that 100 volts, a real red flag for our air conditioner.

Not the kind of voltage numbers that I wanted to see at our supply post.

As simply as I can say it this is a major issue, during the week we are the only people in our row therefore the only site pulling any more power than the normal fridge operation in the other sites, but this happened on a weekend with four out of the five sites occupied, it’s hot and humid so four air conditioners operating. Now RV air conditioners are not efficient and pull a heavy power draw, but should be able to operate easily within the supply limits. So what causes the voltage to be 100 instead of 120? The answer could be what is referred to as voltage drop, and the easiest explanation of voltage drop is by trying to draw to much power through too small of power cord. If this is the case if I checked the voltage at my post and compared it to the voltage at the source they would vary greatly. Like if out post outlet read a voltage of 100 volts and the power supply at the main panel shows 120 volts it would tell me that our power supply had a bad voltage drop. In our case the voltage reading were only a couple of volts difference, proving the issue is a utility issue, I would speculate that it is a transformer on the utility pole which is failing.

I’m lucky we have an on board generator, so Saturday afternoon I decide to disconnect from shore power and fire up the generator, now the generator starts with power from the chassis batteries, we have owned the coach for eight years and the batteries were not new when we purchased the coach, in fact Miss Laurie and I discussed getting new chassis batteries this year before our fall departure. I had not started the generator or the coach since June and now when I went to start the generator I got a failure code from the chassis batteries! Not a big issue normally, but it is hotter than hell here today and the solution to this is the battery charger which is buried in the basement compartment, then the time to charge the batteries enough to start the generator, 20 minutes later with both air conditioners running off of our generator we watch the coach temperature drop from 31°C (88°F) to 23°C (74ºF) in an hour.

I have reported this situation to the park owners and now will have to wait to see how long it takes the utility company to resolve the problem, my expectation is not high but will push for a satisfactory resolution.

It’s now the first of the week, still in the heat wave but we are back to the only people in our row, and as bad as the voltage remains we are able to operate the one air conditioner, I have been sourcing new chassis batteries and will obtain then this week, these batteries run a number of things besides starting the generator and the main diesel engine so they are heavy duty batteries and unlike our house batteries they are rated by CCA (Cold Cranking Amps), our batteries are 950 CCA each for a total of 1900 CCA which is what it takes to start our big diesel engine on a cold start. The starter batteries have to be lead acid type and be designed as starting batteries, shock means they can provide huge amperage to a starter motor, deep cycle batteries can not and neither can lithium, our six lithium house batteries for example could only supply a peak amperage of 1200 before shutting down from overload.

After a day of research and price comparisons I have purchased two new series 31 batteries for just over 300 dollars Canadian which is an excellent price as most comparable batteries wound have well over 450 dollars. I’m now charging the new batteries which most places do not do, these lead acid batteries are brought to life by the seller flooding the with sulphuric acid when purchased, this means they remain shelf stable for years, and if being installed in a normal vehicle would be charged by the vehicle alternator as it drove down the road, we are not going to be driving anywhere for a while so ad the manufacturer suggests I will top both batteries off before installing, then the onboard system will trickle charge them daily to replace the items that draw power from them daily.

This is a lead acid battery chart – notice that a lead acid battery is classified as 50% discharged at 12.06 volts – from full to half in less than one volt!

The voltage on the batteries were 12.67 and 12.66 volts before charging, which according to a lead acid power chart has them at 90% charged and while good, is not 100%.

The biggest downfall of lead acid batteries is the very show charging rate, the battery shown below had a voltage reading of 12.67 volts at time of purchase, place it on my smart battery charger and it charger for five hours before the charger switched to a float charge. But now the battery has a reading of 13.14 volts which is what is revered to as a surface charge which is the voltage reading from the charger, after sitting for a couple of hours the final photo shows the fully charged voltage of 12.77, it took five hours to achieve that extra few hundreds of a volt the difference between 90% and 100%.

Purchasing big starter batteries, here is my tip for getting the best price. Ask your local trucking fleet where they purchase their batteries and the contact that supplier, for example I saved over $60 per battery, the closed competitor price wise had 2 in stock the supplier I purchased from had 2100 in stock, most truck fleet operators replace their fleet batteries well before they fail to avoid roadside service at overinflated prices.

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Day 2338

Tuesday February 27th 2024

Dear Journal:

5:45 and Mister Sam just met me in the coach gallery for his morning treats, as I head for my recliner and after I get settled I’m blessed with a few moments of that precious kitty lap time. But just a few moments before he heads to the bedroom to work on rousing Miss Laurie, it is only after he is able to roust Miss Laurie that he can settle into the queen size bed for his morning nap.

Some morning television, a couple of cups of perked coffee, with a wee Irish blessing, I’m working on publishing the new shorter blogs, as well as trying to keep up with our day to day life.

Today we are headed to Apache Junction to help out a fellow RVer, or at least his wife Julia has asked for some help or at least some guidance. I hate situations like this the wife has asked a lot of questions, that I have tried to answer to no avail. Now we are on our way to see if I can diagnose an issue for a fellow I don’t even know and have never met. I’m hoping he is receptive to assistance, one never knows how people will react to outside assistance.

As we drive eastbound on US-60 we can see poppies blooming on the shoulders of the road, seem too early but some rain and 80° days and poof there are wildflowers busting to life. Traffic in Arizona is pretty much.

We were greeted by Julia & Ernie at their campground, and soon headed over to their coach. Last October they made the decision to move out of their coach and purchased a park model in a different park here in Apache Junction, and after transferring items from their coach they parked to coach in a different section of the park. The coach had been operating properly before the time of parking it. but after being parked just a few weeks all the batteries had lost power. Their coach is a 42′ Monaco with a tag axle and almost every known option back in 2005, when we got to the coach there was no power in the house batteries at all so I pulled our towed close enough to boost the battery bank (4 large 6 volt batteries) and as the voltage started to climb we were starting to see different systems cone to life.

Now to diagnose why the system went dead to begin with. The coach was plugged in but it was drawing no power, so I start at the park power supply and confirm it has power, because the basement doors were all locked and only able to be unlocked by a remote we needed more battery power, but in the coach I found the main power breaker shut off. This is an easy mistake because unlike with a house breaker panel there is not a main breaker. Usually the manufacture can cut costs by just adding a 30 amp or 50 amp breaker that back feeds the rest of the circuits when turned on. In simple terms the breaker box is the most inexpensive and takes less space that a main switch box with a breaker box. After turning on the power to the breaker box, I then switch on the inverter which should charge the battery bank but I also found that the main disconnect switch in the battery compartment was switched off as well. With the power and the inverter now turned on we are charging the house batteries and now the coach circuits have been energized. Now I move on to the chassis battery which power the diesel engine and the generator, so I move the booster cable from the house batteries to the chassis batteries and now we have an attempt to engage the starter on both the generator and the chassis motor.

After some charging time from our towed’s alternator we get enough battery power to start the generators diesel motor, but still not enough to crank the big diesel motor. By this time I have explored most of the major components, such as the inverters, the solar control unit, and other control circuits, most people just have no idea how many different systems operate within the coach’s electrical systems. So I have accomplished everything that was asked other than getting the coach’s engine started but I feel it is just a case of getting the batteries sufficiently charged, so before leaving the coach we plugged in a small 12 volt charger on the chassis batteries and I suspect that the diesel will have enough power to start up tomorrow.

We moved back to their park model where we enjoyed a cold beverage along with some barbequed dogs and burgers, I think they were happy with our progress, and while disappointed with not getting the chassis motor running I think they can see a path to that happening very soon. We left Julia & Erie just after sunset and drove to the local Fry’s got this weeks supplies before heading back to the Arboretum and a very unhappy Mister Sam who was now over three hours late for his dinner. We settled into watch a recorded Voice show, enjoyed some ice cream before heading to bed, I was exhausted after a day of climbing in, on and under the coach.